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I have come to think also that deeper bodies respond very well to Italian like the H model. That’s pretty sweet you bought an OT from OT! 6 years is a pretty good time to be playing something in … mine is just now 5. I know I said in my video 6 but I was wrong…. just coming up on 5. As long as it gets voiced with enough thickness or punch and the body gives it some depth, it’s bold qualities can really come forward. It’s very classy and serious in mine with the toasty cocobolo
I bet that was fun getting to buy that guitar man, how did THAT happen???
I actually played an Italian Koa somethign in Austin, I think an OM Grand…. and man, between mine and the african one I a b s o l u t e l y did not dig the third one (the koa one)…… Could definitely be because it was new, but it was incredibly cold, stiff, and shallow. I remember my guitar was extremely cold when I first got it and I felt really let down by the build for a year or two. I remember thinking, I have no desire to ever pick up a koa italian santa cruz again after that one lol.. . but I love to be surprised! It was a truly bad one. I’m surprised that they let it go like that… I guess that they just know sometimes these guitars need years upon years before becoming playable in a sense of enjoyment or musicality. Don’t take those as harsh words, they’re just my opinion, but I think an off the shelf martin would have mopped the floor with that one and I am not a big fan of martin or off the shelf guitars at GC.
I think maybe the italian spruce had a lot to do with it… they seem very young and cold and reluctant to play when brand new in my experience. I think Adirondack is a much better wood for the OM Grand because it is already thin, projective and focused… you wouldn’t want to marry that with cold and metallic. However, after about 5 years my Italian/Coco OM Grand with prewar bracing hide glue does sound a lot better…… like my guitar teacher wanted me to return it when I first got it it was so awful lol. I had faith though, and eventually it warmed and loosened up.
I’m getting emails that people are commenting on this, reading them in the email, but they’re not showing up here
Woooooah! Yikes.
Am I the only one who thinks of things in units of how many guitars I could buy with it?
Got to take care of the women!
Thanks for the update, I always like hearing about it
Looking forward to hearing how it goes, so the Cruzes are just for your personal use and you use the Martin in public?
Yeah, it seems like I either find a non santa cruz string for my guitar or else it doesn’t jive and what does jive is outdone by another guitar making it kind of useless unless you’re playing in the midrange way up the neck to get a soulful, slow, sweet laid back vibe.
I’m trying to understand the last thing you wrote – “How about another emo last the last one you did?” … sorry if I’m a bit slow, but I’m not sure what you’re meaning
Minimize everything as much as possible, keep it simple while you get a track down and then you can always retake or add complexity later. It took me years to be able to do both at the same time and I’m still not great at it. It’s just more fun to be one or the other.
In the age we live in, everyone is so isolated. Music happens when you come together with other people and I feel largely my generation is robbed of that by our own hand or otherwise. No doubt things go better when you have some good teamwork, but sometimes you can really nail it yourself too.
I think mostly just failing a lot and learning from those failures and enjoying the successes. Something I struggle with as well, but going to school for music production helped. Doing anything plugged direct in rather than mic’d up perfectly is easier. I also agree, I don’t have much interest in recording. I love to write and produce as well as mix and master, but just not the recording part. I’d rather perform it
bert, I started with an EIR H and also decided to move towards mahogany and other woods evolving within the santa cruz family myself too
Hahaha Chris, “it’s truly the small things in life” … love that quote from the movie. That would be a funny poster
Yeah, I’m not sure how much Collings guitars cost because I’ve only ever shopped Santa Cruz… but getting a SC that’s really worth it in my opinion requires every upgrade. The price gets pretty sky high, and I just figure that on a used market people aren’t willing to shell that out…. or maybe more importantly they know that there is no pressure for it to be sold closer to what it was paid for and they can just wait for a good one to pop up.
I have sold a Santa Cruz before and only got like 45-60% of what I paid for it even though it was in mint condition and the guitar actually had more value than when it was new because of being played and aging for 3-4 years. Why should I have lost so much on it? Who knows, it discourages people from trading them around more I think because you don’t want to go buying things that you’re going to lose 5,000 dollars on.
Because the kind of Santa Cruz guitars that I look for are almost never on the used market and even rarely built new, I don’t really benefit from them being so low on the market and too wish that the used market would come up.
I mean, if the guitar is in good shape the more it is played and the older it is the higher value it has. The guitar appreciated in value, but it seems like until its 15-20 years old nobody respects that. Many Santa Cruz guitars are very cold from the factory, I don’t know why someone wouldn’t prefer used if they could get what they want.
This is one reason I’m glad the shop went more custom lately. A lot of the stuff out there doesn’t represent their best effort because I really feel that hide glue, adirondack braces, old growth adirondack top, and choice woods and options really allow the shop to deliver what I wish they delivered on every guitar. They probably wouldn’t be able to stay in business though because they’d have to sell them all for 11-12K and it seems like the bulk of their guitars sell for 6-8k. I mean, it is a LOT of money for a guitar but at the end of the day we all pay it because we can’t get it somewhere else with as much ethics, excellent service and understanding, or quality.
In short, I too am puzzled by the fact that the resell is so poor on Santa Cruz despite them being the acoustic king.
Thank you guys, I’m glad you enjoyed it.
Zorro thank you for your compliment, but I haven’t been playing in the past year and half due to getting married, getting pregnant, and living with family at the moment. I’m too rusty for a skill show 🙂 Also, when I compare guitars I try to keep it very dry so the focus is on the model and the wood and it’s easy to hear the differences. I appreciate you and love the comment though haha
Hey Dig Dog, that’s cool because that’s the one I’ve owned for five years… keep in mind it’s been played and the other one is new. Also the Italian/Cocobolo has advanced x bracing (pre war style bracing) and the other one is standard OM Grand. They actually had an Italian/Koa OM Grand there but it was extremely stale/cold and new… I didn’t like the specimen at all and wouldn’t want it online representing Santa Cruz. It was one of those guitars you pick up and 20 seconds later hand back for the shop keeper to put back up on the wall.
Tad, yes it took me a minute to calculate the difference from the art deco inlays, the other tuners, and the lack of brazilian headstock inlay and binding LOL 😀 To answer you, no I didn’t at all… I was like oooh that’s cool let’s see how it sounds. I actually specifically went by that shop knowing they had an African Blackwood OM Grand that I’ve been waiting for months to come in.
