Tuner Swap

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    • February 9, 2018 at 1:04 am #315
      Anonymous

        Hi,

        Does anyone know if SCGC glues in the tuner bushings?  I’d like to swap mine out and am not sure how to best remove the bushings.

        Thanks!

      • February 9, 2018 at 5:47 am #316
        Matt Hayden
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          Mine were not glued in.  They were a very snug press fit, and I made up a tool to press them out from the back very gently – it was a piece of maple turned to 1/4” with a slightly larger shoulder (a bit less than 11/32” AIR) to push on the bottom of the bushings.

        • February 9, 2018 at 7:34 pm #320
          Anonymous

            Good to know Matt.

             

          • February 10, 2018 at 3:52 pm #328
            Matt Hayden
            Participant

              The trick to get them out is to very gently press on the back of the bushing. I made up a jig with the above-mentioned shouldered post, a small screw clamp, and a block on the face with a relief hole for the bushing, and they came out without cracking the lacquer,

            • February 10, 2018 at 8:41 pm #330
              Anonymous

                Thanks Matt!

              • February 13, 2018 at 1:58 am #352
                Matt Hayden
                Participant

                  You are most welcome! 🙂

                • February 16, 2018 at 1:51 am #363
                  pto
                  Participant

                    stew mac offers a modified visegrip for bushing installation and removal.  not sure it’s necessary for waverly bushings that have been properly installed. overkill to me (i have used it).  but if the bushing is stubborn, then this safely, for both sides of the headstock, does it.

                  • June 25, 2019 at 1:52 am #2540
                    Anonymous

                      Resurrecting an old thread to say thank you for the tip re: the StewMac tool.  I am out of town for a couple days, but was planning on swapping my chrome Gotoh mini 510s for the antique gold ones when I return home.  Now I know what to use if I have difficulty removing the old ones.

                    • June 25, 2019 at 1:09 pm #2542
                      bert
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                        The Gotoh 510s are excellent tuners. A few years ago I decided to move the Waverlys on my 2001 VJ to an old Martin I sold.  I replaced them with a new set of Schaller Grand Tunes. Can’t recall the exact size of the tuner shaft hole but I used a drill bit that fit perfect. From the back of the headstock just lightly tapped the bushing out no problem. Sometimes the compression fit can be difficult and need the StewMac tool (or a luthier).

                        Every tuner swap is a one-off in my experience. bert

                      • July 25, 2019 at 7:27 pm #2659
                        Matt Hayden
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                          As much as I like Waverly tuners – and I do – I have tried the Gotoh SXN-510V tuners on a Martin that came with the usual closed-back tuners, and I am extraordinarily impressed.  They fit together with a screw-in bushing from the front like a closed-back tuner and fit the holes for the old tuner exactly.  They’re 15:1, so fine enough tuning, and don’t bind at all.

                          It’s much easier than a conversion to Waverly tuners even with the conversion bushings – there’s no probability of misplacing the tuner and having it bind.  And the Gotohs are, as with any other open-back, vastly lighter than the closed-back tuners they replace.

                          http://g-gotoh.com/international/product/sxn510v.html

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