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Matt Hayden.
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January 17, 2018 at 10:53 pm #160
sdelsolray
ParticipantI bought a used 2011 SCGC Custom F all mahogany about 2 ½ years ago from a forum member. I enjoyed the guitar quite a bit (fingerstyle, flesh and nail) and preferred it over a SCGC 000 1929 I also had at the time. However there was a dead spot right on the high G note (3rd fret, 1st string) that became annoying as time passed. In addition, I found that I had to increase my right hand attack force to bring the guitar into a better sonic and behavioral operating range. I had the setup adjusted (part of the G note problem was a bit of buzzing when the note was attacked forcefully). I tried tuning down ½ step but that only moved the dead spot up one fret to the G# note. This all occurred with light gauge strings.
About three months ago, I tried something else…change to medium gauge strings and lower the tuning about ¼ step (to A = 432). The dead note pretty much disappeared, the dynamic range increased and I can use less right hand attack force to get the instrument into its preferred operating range.
In looking back, I can see how this was the solution. The instrument is a F body, and it is all hog, so it is very well mannered (like F models tend to be) and the mahogany top limits the dynamic range.
Funny how simple things can occasionally improve the sonics and behavior of a guitar.
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January 19, 2018 at 12:13 am #180
Matt Hayden
ParticipantIt took the right strings to fine-tune my OM. I’d used D’Addario EJ16s on everything for twenty-some years, with the general proviso that strings don’t really matter. The EJ16s were fine – or so I thought.
Swapped out to the SCGC low tension set several years ago, and bang, the midrange on the instrument came out, string-to-string clarity improved (important for jazz chords), and the voice overall is better balanced. It handles dropped tunings better as well. And I’ve had to eat my words insofar as acknowledging that string choice really can make a significant difference.
Little things matter more than we let on sometimes.
ps I may have played that F – it’s a non-cutaway, right? That is a BIG guitar.
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January 19, 2018 at 3:24 am #184
sdelsolray
ParticipantYes, non-cutaway, flamed mahogany with full body sunburst, adi braces and HHG. I got it from Tadol who got it from Keith.
It’s quite startling how much better this guitar sounds behaves with medium strings.
I don’t care for medium strings on any of my other guitars, except for .013 and .017 for strings 1 and 2, which adds a bit of roundness to those strings and facilitates many dropped tunings.
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January 19, 2018 at 7:37 pm #187
tadol
ModeratorGood to know that beautiful F has found an appreciative home – after trying a few different all mahogany guitars from SCGC, I’ve settled on a wonderful ‘29 OM that has the balance I wanted between body size, and tonal response. So far, the SCGC light tension strings have been great, and I find they give the guitar a nice sparkle on the high end, and a full, responsive bass at the same time. I would be intrigued to try the medium tension on it, but these strings last so long, I know if I change them out I have to live with them for a few months at least, and I’m not really inclined to change something I like –
Lots o’ SCGC guitars! But never ask which is my fav
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January 20, 2018 at 2:20 am #196
Matt Hayden
ParticipantHmm. I’d like to try that OM sometime if you’re down for it.
I have a Martin all-mahogany OM (OMC-15E, which is allegedly a prototype, which I pried out of Joe Mack’s hands) and it’d be interesting to see how the two are voiced differently.
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January 20, 2018 at 4:39 am #198
tadol
ModeratorYou are always welcome to play any of my guitars, Matt! We’ll find a time soon!
Lots o’ SCGC guitars! But never ask which is my fav
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February 2, 2018 at 7:19 pm #285
Matt Hayden
ParticipantLet’s schedule a meetup.
My backyard is – well, will be – a good place to do that shortly; the lawn guys are in the process of taming it.
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