Soundboard Signatures

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    • #9337
      SaMurray
      Participant

        Hi SCGC
        Is it the case that most SCGC guitars over the years would feature the signature of the person who tuned the soundboard or were some just not signed, and for what reason would this be?

        Thanks

      • #9339
        indexless
        Keymaster

          Hi

          the. Collective heard here has knowledge. If you could post a picture from inside the guitar looking at the underside of the top. If you use the self timer on your camera phone it makes getting some views easier. Tops are signed by the luthier who voiced them. Also your serial number and style of guitar, om, d…. Would help as well.  Let’s see what we can find out

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        • #9341
          SaMurray
          Participant

            Thanks. I’ll try to upload some photos.

          • #9343
            BOWIE
            Participant

              The only one I’ve had that wasn’t signed was a uke. On the darker woods (redwood, mahogany, koa) the sig was harder to see but it was there. Not always on the same side of the bridge.

            • #9344
              SaMurray
              Participant

                Thanks for this Bowie. I can’t seem to locate a signature on my 1994 OM at all using a mirror. But I have not had the strings off yet to allow for a more thorough check. Will report back!

              • #9345
                indexless
                Keymaster

                  If you call the shop at 831-425-0999, they can most likely figure it out from the serial number and the build card

                  Bowie has a Santa Cruz Uke?

                • #9346
                  BOWIE
                  Participant

                    When you take the strings off, lay your phone on the back (under the bridge) with the flashlight on. Then use the mirror to check South of the bridge plate. That should let you see the sig.

                     

                    Yes Richard, I have an all mahogany SCGC uke. Not signed, but the shop verified the serial # and was able to look up the build sheet.

                  • #9351
                    indexless
                    Keymaster

                      Bowie….That’s a BIG Wow!   Rarer than rare

                    • #9353
                      SaMurray
                      Participant

                        Re-strung the guitar at the weekend and took the opportunity to take photos inside. There’s absolutely no signature anywhere. Not quite sure what to make of this tbh… I’ll attempt to upload some photos

                      • #9354
                        SaMurray
                        Participant

                        • #9356
                          SaMurray
                          Participant

                          • #9357
                            SaMurray
                            Participant

                            • #9358
                              SaMurray
                              Participant

                              • #9359
                                SaMurray
                                Participant

                                • #9360
                                  SaMurray
                                  Participant

                                    It’s a 1993 (I mistakenly said ’94 before) OM

                                  • #9361
                                    pto
                                    Participant

                                      my 1991 TR signed by Jeff Traugott and that cowboy luthier, Otis B. Rodeo:)

                                    • #9362
                                      BOWIE
                                      Participant

                                        Everything else looks correct. Considering how small an operation it was back then, I wonder if the sig just got overlooked.

                                        • #9368
                                          SaMurray
                                          Participant

                                            I’m glad the insides look correct to someone at least. That’s reassuring, thanks. Was starting to question things given nearly all owners appear to report the presence of a signature from the soundboard tuner.

                                        • #9363
                                          wbb90TR
                                          Participant

                                            My 1990 TR also signed by Jeff Traugott and Otis B Rodeo!

                                          • #9352
                                            SaMurray
                                            Participant

                                              Re-strung the guitar over the weekend and took the opportunity to take a lot of images with my phone. There’s absolutely no signature anywhere inside. Not quite sure what to make of this tbh…

                                               

                                               

                                               

                                               

                                            • #9355
                                              SaMurray
                                              Participant

                                                 

                                              • #9367
                                                indexless
                                                Keymaster

                                                  Is that OM 276…..uh…WOW, are the back and sides KOA?

                                                  • #9369
                                                    SaMurray
                                                    Participant

                                                      Yep, serial as you say but back and sides Indian Rosewood

                                                  • #9370
                                                    indexless
                                                    Keymaster

                                                      Beautiful bracing, did you cal the shop to learn more about the built sheet, play that guitar

                                                      • #9373
                                                        SaMurray
                                                        Participant

                                                          Thanks for your reply. I haven’t called (I’m UK based) but I did message them. They were able to provide certain details like “advanced bracing” etc but they haven’t responded with details about soundboard tuning etc yet, so I’ll maybe give them a bell.

                                                      • #9375
                                                        indexless
                                                        Keymaster

                                                          I’m reaching out for you today, give it a couple of days to respond, stay tuned

                                                          • #9376
                                                            SaMurray
                                                            Participant

                                                              So kind. Thank you very much!

                                                          • #9377
                                                            indexless
                                                            Keymaster

                                                              I just want to compliment you on the terrific photos you took. The detail in the craftsmanship speaks for itself.

                                                              We have the word from Paul Ramey at the shop. I have to say his timely response to this and his willingness to help has been amazing. Here we go

                                                              “I spoke to Darren (our 30 year SCGC employee) and he is fairly certain Adam Rose did the voicing back in 93. 

                                                              This is not the first time I have seen a ’90s (or older) Santa Cruz without the signature on the top.

                                                              I think this happens occasionally because we are a small shop and everyone has historically worn many hats. So maybe he was training someone while also doing a top and just spaced out, forgetting to add a signature. 

                                                              Ultimately, I can’t say for certain why there is no signature without wild speculation. I know its not the most satisfying answer but there is not always a lot of written documentation available and sometimes its just a fun mystery!”

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                                                              • #9380
                                                                SaMurray
                                                                Participant

                                                                  So good of you put this out there for me – really appreciate it. And thanks so much to Paul for taking the time with such a considered reply 😍

                                                                • #9382
                                                                  PR-831
                                                                  Moderator

                                                                    Happy to help out!

                                                                • #9379
                                                                  BOWIE
                                                                  Participant

                                                                    Wonderful to see an answer straight from the shop. I’ve bugged them many times and, while they don’t always have an answer or recollection, the fact that they listen and try is what matters to me.

                                                                    • #9381
                                                                      SaMurray
                                                                      Participant

                                                                        I couldn’t agree with you more 😉

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