Interesting, I wish I could hear a 17″ jazz guitar from Santa Cruz. . . I’m finding arch tops , roy smecks, and jumbos are kind of what I gravitate to…. still love the H13 I started out on and my OM Grand, but these are the guitars in the past 4-5 years that I have really enjoyed playing at stores on road trips. If they made a 17″ archtop I would definitely think they’ve done a jumbo. No telling how much an archtop would cost now, probably as much as a 34?