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BOWIE.
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March 14, 2024 at 10:07 pm #8699
I find the low-tension parabolics are ALMOST perfect on most of my instruments. But, the high E can be a little reedy. I know I’m not alone there because I’ve seen a number of people online say they pair SCGC strings with a thicker E. I’d love to be able to get single mid-tension Es. Are SCGCs singles ever sold?
Some people say non-wounds are all the same from brand to brand but that’s not my experience. SCGC non-wound strings have a distinctive harmonic character that I really like.
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March 14, 2024 at 11:26 pm #8700
I have SCGC strings on all my SCs except the 2001 Maple/German F. That has Elixer Custom lights nano coated.
I have also read comments about the high E SCs……. IMHO it is operator error. i have a very long little finger and I tend to pull the high E off the fretboard. When I “Roll” my little finger directly on top of the string and hold hard just prior to plucking it’s Always clean and clear……Shit, listen to me !….I sound like I know what I’m talking about ?
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Hank.
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March 14, 2024 at 11:30 pm #8702
I also have the SCGC 12 string set on my Taylor K62ce that I bought from DigDog ( whom I miss much). and If I don’t pay attention I can also pull the high E s off the fretboard.
Fair Winds
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March 15, 2024 at 12:24 am #8704
For me, and others I’ve seen comment on the subject, it’s not slippage or any sort of left hand thing but it’s about the tone. I play fingerstyle so I can compensate in ways and make the tone fatter. But, it would be much nicer to be able to get a thicker high E to get the tone a little fuller. I feel the parabolics are wonderful at getting an even FEEL across the strings but they lack an even TONE when you get to the high E. That’s not something that’s just exclusive to these strings but, for me, it’s the only thing keeping them from being my perfect string.
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March 15, 2024 at 1:52 am #8705
I’ve had 4 sets of mid-tension strings. The first string is spec’d at .013″, and each of the 4 first strings measured .013″. For calibration, a John Pearse medium string measured .013″ as well. So, all good, right on the mark.
I’ve had two sets of low-tension strings. The first string is spec’d at .012, but each of the 2 first strings measured .0115. For calibration, a John Pearse light string measured exactly .012″. Based on this, some first strings on the low tension sets may be lighter than intended, and as a result have less tension, and that’s what players are noticing.
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March 15, 2024 at 5:51 am #8706
Alex, I think you are correct. I’ve seen someone else mention that exact thing on AGF. For me, equal tension isn’t that meaningful as I started in classical where we mix and match strings for the next tone, and equal tension is less important.
I didn’t try the SCGC strings for years because the advertising is all about the equal tension, which I don’t care about. But, when I tried them I found the tone and lifespan are amazing so that’s why I use them.
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March 15, 2024 at 6:42 pm #8707
Bowie
You should contact the shop, they might sell you singles
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March 16, 2024 at 1:42 am #8709
From what I’ve understood, seems like the intent of the “parabolic” tension was not quite equal tension on all strings, but rather a sense of proportionate tension given the position of the strings on the saddle and the tension of the adjacent strings not being played — the intent being more uniform feel and response of each string to being plucked. And the tools are diameters of core wire and wrappings.
That being said, the result is that the edge strings — 1st and 6th — are close to “typical” diameters (such as .013 and .056 for mid tension), while the interior strings are a little lighter. This is similar to the Mr. Tony himself strings that Martin puts out. For Santa Cruz, it is relative tension and the feel of elasticity that are important, and the diameter just falls out where ever it does.
Myself, sample of 1, I like the feel and the tone of the Santa Cruz strings, but since I’m a mediocre player, I don’t have the precision to get a good solid sound out of the middle strings (in the mid-tension) with a flat pick. I need help! Like a few more pounds of tension in the middle strings. Fingerpicking, feels much better, a real pleasure to play.
You get a good player who is used to a .012 first string, and substitute a .0115 first string in a low tension set, the player will feel a difference right away. From my measurements, the mid tension sets were virtually right on the money — just a very occasional +- .0005 from stated spec for each string. The low tension sets were consistently on the smaller side, typically in the range of -.0005 to -.0015 below stated spec for a lot of the strings in a set.
Depends on the guitar also. The TR Pro played beautifully with SC mid-tension. The Collings varnish is stunning with John Pearse PB mediums, although somewhat more subdued with SC mid-tension, as if there is more in the guitar that is trying to get out.
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April 1, 2024 at 9:43 pm #8727
Hi Alez,
We finally got Richard and Rick on the phone for todays podcast, it’s a great one and will clear a lot of things up., give it a listen, it’s #75
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April 2, 2024 at 7:05 pm #8737
Personally, I kinda doubt SCGC is gonna be able to routinely offer individual strings. But I’m willing to be surprised –
I’d try an online string source and get a couple different gauges of single strings and see how they work for you. It might be the simplest and most efficient way to accomplish what you want for the time being – please report back!
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April 3, 2024 at 1:48 am #8742
Thanks tadol. The problem with that is I like the scgc treble string “sparkle” and going with a different brand for the E would make buying scgs strings a waste for me.
I emailed the company 2 weeks ago but got no reply. I think their email form on the website has issues because I sometimes get replies and sometimes don’t.
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April 14, 2024 at 12:56 am #8759
I finally got a reply. Apparently, they don’t receive the strings separate so they don’t have singles to offer. I hope to see that change as I mostly love these but the high E on the low tensions is is not my favorite.
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