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markwillplay
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« on: April 29, 2012, 02:55:25 PM »

Here is A vs B
this is just for fun Grin.  I will tell what the guitars are after a bit..but both are hog slopes...one shallower than the other...one has carpathian spuce top and the other adirondak.

To be far, one does have older elixer strings on it..but this ain't rocket science..just for fun, which do you like better for what? I play a bit with bare fingers, flatpick (strum), and metal fingerpicks...I left out single not flatpicking but they respond very differently to that as well.

there is a little compression and a little verb...large diaphram condencer mic into boss dig 8 track.

http://www.soundclick.com/player/single_player.cfm?songid=11607149&q=hi&newref=1
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« Reply #1 on: April 29, 2012, 04:32:04 PM »

Funny how they both sound better than anything I have with you doing the playing. I prefer A.
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« Reply #2 on: April 29, 2012, 05:30:01 PM »

Gotta go with A, just a richer, more engaging sound all around to my ears.

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« Reply #3 on: April 29, 2012, 05:43:52 PM »

I like 'em both.  A is, using my unwashed words, "tighter".  B seems to have more sustain. 
For the most part, that's a good thing.  But not always.

For percussion(y) background, strumming with chords, I'd go for A.  B's an out-front cannon.

I can tell you two things for sure...even with ≠ A:B'ing because of strings, etc.
Both are really good axes. As is your playing.

I'm going to stick my neck out here...I'll make this guess:  A is "newer". Or, at least "less played" than B.
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« Reply #4 on: April 29, 2012, 09:09:35 PM »

ThIs is fun. I'm going with A is more crisp N chimy,hence the Adi top. B sounds warmer with more sustain,the Carpathian top.  Nice playing.
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« Reply #5 on: April 29, 2012, 09:37:40 PM »

Wow.  Comparing Granny Smith to Golden Delicious.  Pretty cool.

I'm betting opposite of Magwa: B has the newer strings.
It has a more complex set of overtones.  And if I you held a gun to my head and forced me to pick to save my life, I'd go with B for that reason. Both sound great!

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« Reply #6 on: April 29, 2012, 11:13:11 PM »

I couldn't tell until you strummed both but now I'm pretty sure its A-Adi and B-Carp and has the newer strings.
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« Reply #7 on: April 29, 2012, 11:35:40 PM »

Not to be a bummer, but If their not identical guitars with differant tops with new strings then I just don't get it.
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« Reply #8 on: April 30, 2012, 07:29:17 AM »

don't know wht to say about that.  Why do they have to be indenticle guitars.  I can compare the tone of a dread to an OM all day long.  Howevr, the strings make a huge difference and if I were to really do a good comparison, they would both need same strings for sure. Here is what I posted on another forum that gives answer...  might make sense after you read it.


I realized that guitar B had old elixers on it and the wound strings are indeed blanketed.too bad.  ... would do a comparison at some point with same strings, but in case I don't, here is what B sounds like with good strings

this is from my last cd "Tryin' Man" http://www.soundclic...7&q=hi&newref=1

you can go to http://markcrawfordwilliams.com/ and just click on Tryin Man and sample all the tunes. YOu can hear it strummed, fingerpicked, and also flatpicked (with some solos). It is the only guitar I used on the entire project. Did not have the new one yet and it probably would not have made much difference. Guitar B is the best recording guitar I have owned. It is indeed the Gibson OJ reissue that I have had for a while...love it. Guitar A is a custom j45 copy that was made thinner for me. I also had some brace work done on it by Bryan Kimsey and it really opened it up. It is definately still "green" or "tight" and I am not sure that it would not be best with lights (even half step low) but it has medium lights on it.  I like them both, but the Gibson has more sustain and sounds very even top to bottom with good strings. The other one has more high end bite believe it or not but the mids are really coming and it is going to be a great sounding guitar. In about a year, this guitar will be super I think.

PS. I have another comparison I did of them with the same strings I think.  But it was before the modifications of the Red-Line and it is a much better sounding guitar now after Kimsey's work.  I will try to find it...neat to hear how it has changed.
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